Challenging: Evil Bible.Com's
"Evils, Atrocities and Injustices of the Torah"

(Part 3 of 3)

The following allegations were found on the Evil Bible.Com website. This particular website is managed by a dyed-in-the-wool atheist who, by taking Scripture out of context, attempts to mislead others into believing his own, skewed concepts of the Bible. This hate-mongering website and chatroom - which basically does nothing but spew venom at God, the Bible, and believers in Yeshua (Jesus) - is a perfect example of why the Bible warns: The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned (1 Corinthians 2:14).

Most people don't realize that websites such as Evil Bible are run by narrow-minded, bigoted people with a very limited and twisted understanding of God and the Bible. No amount of proof "gets through" to these people - who swarm like screeching vultures on anyone who tries to present Biblical Truth to them. The goal of The Refiner's Fire's is to be a beacon of light in this dark world of atheistic distortions - and to challenge their unfounded allegations.

Evil Bible Allegation: Exodus 32:27 God ordered to be killed, 3,000 Israelites for no greater crime than worshipping a golden calf. I don't know about you but death is a pretty harsh f--- punishment.

The Refiner's Fire Response:

Let's get real. YHWH is the Creator of the entire universe. He states over and over again that we are not to worship any other God. As a matter of fact, the First of the Ten Commandments is: Don't have other gods. In Exodus, God had just finished using Moses to rescue His People from Egypt. These people had personally witnessed God using the ten plagues to show the Egyptians whowas in charge; they had personally witnessed themselves crossing the Red Sea safely on dry ground and they had personally witnessed the sea closing over the Egyptians who were in hot pursuit; not to mention the fact that, for 40 years God supernaturally fed them manna! They didn't have to garden, kill animals for food - NOTHING. God had them there for "deprogramming" from the Egyptian "gods" and to show them how HE wanted them to live. So why shouldn't He get mad and kill those who refused to obey Him after all they had witnessed personally? How stupid are people to worship something they concocted themselves after seeing God Himself in action?

Evil Bible Allegation: Leviticus 20:9-10 God commands death for cursing out ones parents and death for adultery. Gee, with these types of laws the population should be almost nil by now.

The Refiner's Fire Response:

If it hadn't been for Yeshua (whom Christians call Jesus) we would be "almost nil by now"! The only reason YOU get to have your "evil" website is because God doesn't order anyone killed for disobedience or sinning anymore. That punishment will come when you die (which could happen at any time!). Eternity is a long, bubba, in which to reflect on all the reasons you denied God and instead relied on your own, limited human mindset....On the day you're thrown into the "Lake of Fire", you won't have time to complain about God's supposed "injustice" on some website! Your last thoughts will be on the terror you're about to face. At that time you will also realize that GOD doesn't "send" anyone to hell: they send THEMSELVES to hell. God GAVE you a choice and you chose to reject it. Too bad for you!

Evil Bible Allegation: Once again god is a homophobe, or at the very least, a bigot. Leviticus 20:13

The Refiner's Fire Response:

As the old adage goes: God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve! He made sex for the purpose of procreation, not so that man could bugger each other in the rear end - a place crawling with e coli, which will KILL you! God tells us throughout the entire Bible how much He detests homosexuality. It is said in several different ways so that even the most dim-witted among us will be able to understand....

Once again, YOU don't realize that MAN is NOT in charge! If MAN were in charge, then please tell me why there's no cure for cancer or AIDS, etc., or any of the "old" diseases - such as "Mad Cow" "Foot and Mouth", or Bubonic Plague that have been returning in droves - just as the Bible predicted. Things are happening in Biblical proportions (the recent tsunami, hurricane Katrina, incredible floods all around the world) - we're experiencing some of the worst disasters in history - and YOU are blind to it!

Amazing how thousands of Americans suddenly found themselves homeless IMMEDIATELY AFTER the U.S. helped in the Gaza "disengagement"! Most people don't realize that God told us NOT to divide His Land or mess with His Chosen, the Jews. Even when presented with absolute TRUTH, they choose to reject it....

HUNDREDS of Bible prophecies have already come true and are continuing to come true RIGHT NOW! Don't take our word for it - check out the following articles, which represent just a FEW eye-openers:

Evil Bible Allegation: Handicapped people must not approach the altar. Leviticus 21:16-23

The Refiner's Fire Response:

Let's show the people what you are referring to:

Leviticus 21: 16 The LORD said to Moses, 17 "Say to Aaron: 'For the generations to come none of your descendants who has a defect may come near to offer the food of his God. 18 No man who has any defect may come near: no man who is blind or lame, disfigured or deformed; 19 no man with a crippled foot or hand, 20 or who is hunchbacked or dwarfed, or who has any eye defect, or who has festering or running sores or damaged testicles. 21 No descendant of Aaron the priest who has any defect is to come near to present the offerings made to the LORD by fire. He has a defect; he must not come near to offer the food of his God. 22 He may eat the most holy food of his God, as well as the holy food; 23 yet because of his defect, he must not go near the curtain or approach the altar, and so desecrate my sanctuary. I am the LORD, who makes them holy.' "

As we keep saying: GOD (YHWH) is God and He can do whatever He wants; what He does is ALWAYS perfect; and He always has His reasons for doing the things He does. Since God is holy and perfect, He cannot be around imperfection. He cannot be around sin of any kind (that's why NONE of us gets to go to heaven without the Sin Sacrifice of Yeshua who atoned for our sin!)

We simply cannot comprehend God with our limited human mindsets. But, from the beginning He told us that He requires perfection in His Presence. He plainly told us that the offerings we present MUST be WITHOUT blemish. Therefore, it stands to reason that people with any kind of defect cannot approach the altar. It's an act of amazing grace that ANY man is allowed near His altar at all, because we are sin-filled by nature (thanks to Adam and Eve!)

God sent Yeshua (an aspect of Himself in human form) to show us the things of God and to teach us how God wants us to live. Yeshua then offered Himself as the FINAL Sin Sacrifice in order to give ALL MANKIND - including the deaf, the blind, the dumb (and even the webmaster of the Evil Bible website were he to repent) the opportunity to go to heaven when their earthly bodies die. THAT is how much God loves us: He wants NO ONE to perish!

Ironically, most people couldn't care less! They don't realize that they too are fulfilling Bible prophecy through their choices: Matthew 7:13 tells us that most people will NOT be choosing to enter through the "narrow gate that leads to life"; most will be entering through the wide gate that leads to death....

Evil Bible Allegation: Leviticus 26:30 - "And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shill ye eat."

The Refiner's Fire Response:

There you go again, taking things OUT OF CONTEXT in order to deceive the world. Everything you've said PROVES that you pick and choose Scriptures in order to further your own atheistic agenda! SHAME ON YOU, CHRIS BABA for purposely trying to lead the world astray! We will let the BIBLE explain what you purposely omitted (as a matter of fact, we urge everyone to read ALL of Leviticus 26):

Leviticus 26: 27 "'If in spite of this you still do not listen to me but continue to be hostile toward me, 28 then in my anger I will be hostile toward you, and I myself will punish you for your sins seven times over. 29 You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters. 30 I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars and pile your dead bodies on the lifeless forms of your idols, and I will abhor you. 31 I will turn your cities into ruins and lay waste your sanctuaries, and I will take no delight in the pleasing aroma of your offerings. 32 I will lay waste the land, so that your enemies who live there will be appalled. 33 I will scatter you among the nations and will draw out my sword and pursue you. Your land will be laid waste, and your cities will lie in ruins. 34 Then the land will enjoy its sabbath years all the time that it lies desolate and you are in the country of your enemies; then the land will rest and enjoy its sabbaths. 35 All the time that it lies desolate, the land will have the rest it did not have during the sabbaths you lived in it.

Evil Bible Allegation: Leviticus 27:28-29 God ordered and allowed human sacrifices.

The Refiner's Fire Response:

We urge people to read Leviticus 27 for themselves. If they find ANYTHING about "human sacrifices" there, we'd love to hear about it!

Leviticus 27: 28 " 'But nothing that a man owns and devotes to the LORD - whether man or animal or family land - may be sold or redeemed; everything so devoted is most holy to the LORD. 29 " 'No person devoted to destruction may be ransomed; he must be put to death.

Evil Bible Allegation: Numbers 16:27 God buries alive Korah and his family.

The Refiner's Fire Response:

READ Numbers 16 to see what ACTUALLY happened. NOTE that God warned those who were His, to move back. He SPARES Godly people; He destroys evil ones....

Evil Bible Allegation: Numbers 16:35 - God killed 250 Levite princes who disagreed with Moses' leadership. He was so bloodthirsty that he wanted to slay more until he was talked out of it. Later he put a plague upon 14,700 Jews who thought there was something wrong in killing 250 princes.

The Refiner's Fire Response:

You just don't get it, do you? You CANNOT understand that the God who created you is in charge! People who go up against GOD and HIS people (those who follow Him) used to be put to death! We urge everyone to read Numbers 16 so they can see for themselves WHY GOD did what He did....

Evil Bible Allegation: Numbers 21:1-3 God utterly destroyed the Canaanites at Hormah as a favor to the Jews.

The Refiner's Fire Response:

Numbers 21: 1 When the Canaanite king of Arad, who lived in the Negev, heard that Israel was coming along the road to Atharim, he attacked the Israelites and captured some of them. 2 Then Israel made this vow to the LORD : "If you will deliver these people into our hands, we will totally destroy [a] their cities." 3 The LORD listened to Israel's plea and gave the Canaanites over to them. They completely destroyed them and their towns; so the place was named Hormah.

The Jews are God's CHOSEN People - the ones who were to be directly responsible for for spreading the word about the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - the God who eventually would come down to earth in human form and offered Himself as the final sin sacrifice. The God who created mankind and would eventually redeem mankind from the sin that man himself was responsible for....

The nations (all non-Jews) during that time were all considered to be paganistic heathens. Why? Because they had ALL rejected the true Creator in favor of their own "gods". Do you GET it yet????

Evil Bible Allegation: Numbers 21:27-35 God abetted Moses in utterly destroying the Amorites at Heshbon - "...the men, the women, and the little ones."

The Refiner's Fire Response:

In checking every Bible version we could find, it says NOTHING about "little ones". These Scriptures speak of the foreign, heathen ARMY who did not worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. If you are God's enemy, then be prepared to be destroyed. Simple as that.

Evil Bible Allegation: Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.

The Refiner's Fire Response:

Chris Baba simply to lead people to believe in LIES! How does he live with himself? This is why it is best for people to read the Bible for themselves - from cover to cover - they will KNOW what it says and not be prone to fall for the junk that somebody espouses. Where does Bible say they were to save the virgins for "later raping by Moses' soldiers"? These women were to be taken and SPARED so they could eventually become wives for the Israelites!

Numbers 31: 15 "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. 16 "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

19 "All of you who have killed anyone or touched anyone who was killed must stay outside the camp seven days. On the third and seventh days you must purify yourselves and your captives. 20 Purify every garment as well as everything made of leather, goat hair or wood."

Evil Bible Allegation: Deuteronomy 3:3-7: God ordered Moses' army to "utterly destroy" 60 cities, killing all the women and children within!

The Refiner's Fire Response:

God ordered the destruction of sixty cities because in those cities dwelt the evil giants and their hybrid offspring. They worshipped Satan, and sacrificed their innocent little children to Molech. When children were sacrificed they were also eaten; in an attempt {or mockery} of Satan to counterfeit God's sacrifice of animals. In these festivals {which were also counterfeits of God's holy festivals}, they held sexual orgies, and mingled themselves with every kind of evil. When they cast their firstborn into the fires of Molech, they danced to loud music and drums, to drown out the screams of their little children who were being burnt alive. God wanted them out of the land that he promised to Abraham and his seed. And he knew if any of them were left, that eventually the Israelites would get involved in their pagan rituals and sacrifice.

However, against God's instructions, the Israelites made covenants with some of the kings of that land, that they would not take their cities nor kill their inhabitants. And the very thing God said would happen, happened. The Israelite ten tribes, that had broken away from the other two tribe, soon took up the ways of the heathen, and were sacrificing their own little children to Molech. They were cast out of Canaan and carried away by the Assyrians.

Then the tribes of Judah and Benjamin {and half tribe of Levi} also fell into the worship of demon gods; joining in their abominable festivals and sacrificing their children. They too met with the same fate of the other ten tribes, and God became very angry with them, and he came down in a chariot, powered by the cherubim, and sent Ezekiel to pronounce judgment upon them, You can read about this in the book of Ezekiel, chapters 1 through 17.

The killing of those Canaanites was a mercy killing, their children would have grown up practicing that Satanic religion, and thousands of children would have died in the agony in the fires of Molech.

Evil Bible Allegation: Deuteronomy 7:12 God ordered the Israelites to kill all the people of seven nations. He even adds, "show no mercy unto them".

The Refiner's Fire Response:

In Old Testament times, if you weren't on God's path and were purposely doing evil, worshipping pagan gods, or waging war against His Chosen People, you expect to be destroyed. He gave people many, many chances, so it wasn't as if they weren't aware....

Evil Bible Allegation: Deuteronomy 20:16 God orders that we kill everything that breathes in the cities that he gives us for an inheritance.

The Refiner's Fire Response:

Ditto the above explanation.

Evil Bible Allegation: A bastard can't attend church "even to his tenth generation." As if denying an innocent child rights to worship isn't cruel. Deuteronomy 23:2

The Refiner's Fire Response:

For some reason people simply cannot "get" that, in order to live, all they had to do was believe in God, trust Him, and obey Him. All that destruction of people was BEFORE Christ. (Now man simply decides on his own who he wants to go to war with and kill!) God offered us an alternative so that ALL may know and worship Him! That alternative is Yeshua!

FINAL NOTE FROM THE REFINER'S FIRE: This three-part series was in response to just one of the many articles on the Evil Bible website. We don't plan on challenging each and every article on this site; just enough to give you an idea that Christopher Baba doesn't have a clue about God or the Bible. He knows just enough to be dangerous; just enough to lead unsuspecting people astray with his limited understanding.

Ask yourselves WHY Chris Baba feels the need to dedicate so much time to a website that spews hatred against God. If he "knows" that God and the Bible are a myth, then WHY does he feel the need to waste any of his precious time on them? Why not just ignore it and let it go? The reason is: Satan is very busy these days to take people away from God. The end is here, and he knows how The Book ends, and so he's doing his level best to take as many people to hell with him as possible! (By the way, if you bother to try to challenge the people in the Evil Bible chatroom, you're wasting your time, because they will come back at you cussing and screaming and calling you names while presenting their atheistic "stuff". Chris Baba has a habit of "banning" all those who are not afraid to challenge him with Biblical Truth - and usually his only reasoning is, "Because you're a retard". God tells us not to argue with unbelievers or cast our pearl before swine, so the best thing to do is just to pray for the atheists of this world....)

Atheists - what you choose to believe is up to you, but we urge you - rather than to simply believe everything and anything that the Evil Bible website espouses - check the facts for yourself. If, afterward, you choose to continue to bash God and the Bible, that is your prerogative. You can do that all you want until Judgment Day - which IS coming, and probably sooner than most of us realize. In the meantime, in order to "find out about the flip side of atheism" we urge you to read everything you can on The Refiner's Fire.