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If Jesus is Divine, then why does He constantly
defer to His Father?

A few words upfront: First of all, ELOHIM cannot be born or die! YHWH is Spirit (Matthew 1:20, John 4:24); He has no form (Deuteronomy 4:12 - 5:33). His human Messiah, Yeshua (created inside Myriam by the Ruach haKodesh/Holy Spirit, Matthew 1:20), was the one who died on the cross/stake.

Scripture tells us Yeshua was "the Word" (John 1:14); he was "an extension" of the Father, the "arm of YHWH" (Isaiah 53:1); someone who basically came to temporarily "put a face on God" while teaching YHWH's people about the Kingdom (Luke 4:43) before offering Himself as our Final SIN Sacrifice. (By the way, for our Jewish readers, Yeshua martyred himself, against which there is no Torah command!)

The "arm" (Yeshua) doesn't control the "brain" (YHWH) and Yeshua never suggested that he came to replace YHWH/the "Father" in any way! He even said He came to do His Father's will and now his own; and that he would do everything His Father commanded.

Luke 4:43 "But he (Yeshua/Jesus) said, "I must preach the good news of the Kingdom of God to the other towns also, because that is why I was sent."

Luke 8:1 And it happened after these things that Y'shua was going around in the cities and in the villages and was preaching and declaring the Kingdom of Elohim.

Philippians 2:5-11 and John 10:22-39 tell us that Yeshua IS ELOHIM - but we need to understand that the RUACH OF YHWH was encased in the flesh of the SON, and it is that THAT FLESH that was pierced! YHWH Himself was never born, nor did He die.

It is important to remember thatYeshua did NOT come to replace YHWH/the "Father"! Scripture tells us he was "the Word" (John 1:14); he was "an extension" of the Father, the "arm of YHWH" (Isaiah 53:1); someone who came to temporarily "put a face on God" while teaching man about the Kingdom of YHWH (Luke 4:43) before offering Himself as our Final SIN Sacrifice. (He martyred himself, against which there is no Torah command!) The "arm" doesn't control the "brain" and Yeshua even said He came to do His Father's will, and to do everything His Father commanded.

Unfortunately, many (if not most) Christians have a bad habit of insisting "Jesus is Lord" as the be-all-end-all, without truly understanding the relationship between Father and Son. You rarely ever hear YHWH mentioned in any church; it's all about "Jesus" there, and this Jesus supposedly came to abolish all of "the law"....Nothing could be further from the Truth, as Yeshua Himself explains in just these FEW examples below!

So, let's begin our discussion with this question: Can GOD be born or die?

The answer is: Yes and no. No, ELOHIM/GOD cannot be born or die. Yes, His Son Yeshua (the human Messiah whose given, Hebrew Name means "Yahweh is Salvation") had a divine Qnoma (Nature), and He was born and He did die.

Isaiah 9: 6 For a child is born to us, a son is given to us; dominion will rest on his shoulders, and he will be given the name Pele-Yo'etz El Gibbor Avi-'Ad Sar-Shalom [Wonder of a Counselor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace], 7 in order to extend the dominion and perpetuate the peace of the throne and kingdom of David, to secure it and sustain it through justice and righteousness henceforth and forever. The zeal of ADONAI-Tzva'ot will accomplish this. CJB

Luke 2: 10. And the Messenger said to them, "Do not have fear, for behold I announce hope to you! A great joy which will be to the whole world. 11. For today is born to you in the city of Dawid the Savior who is Master YHWH, the Mashiyach.[1] 12. And this is a sign to you; you will find an infant who is wrapped in swaddling clothes and lying in a manger." 13. And at that instant the great host of heaven appeared with the Messenger, glorifying Elohim and saying, "Glory to Elohim in the highest, and on earth peace and good hope to the sons of men. (Aramaic English New Testament by Andrew Gabriel Roth)

FOOTNOTES from the AENT:

[1] One of the most powerful statements about YHWH and His Mashiyach in the entire Aramaic NT. YHWH is the real Mashiyach, who chose the vessel of Y'shua the man. However, within Y'shua the man is an occurrence of the One Divine Nature of YHWH, also known as the Ruach haKodesh. This is the literal meaning of the fullness of YHWH dwelling inside Mashiyach, and in accordance with Tanakh prophecy (Isaiah 53:1, Zechariah 12:10). The divine and human natures exist separately yet side-by-side within Y'shua.

Let's dig deeper:

Yeshua, "The Word of YHWH who became flesh" (John 1:14) was the promised Messiah who martyred Himself on our behalf. He was a human being who walked among us. He never said He came as a "new God" to offer a "new religion"; He came as the "arm of YHWH" (Isaiah 53:1) to proclaim the Kingdom of Heaven and to do everything His Father said. He came to "walk out" His Father's Torah (Divine Instructions in Righteousness) and to personally show YHWH's people how it was done:

(NOTE: Our use of the term "martyr" is intentional because Jewish anti-missionaries and their converts love to point out that "G-d never required human sacrifice!" Well, Y'shua wasn't a "human sacrifice" because nobody "sacrificed" Him. He was a Divine Sacrifice who willingly went to the cross/stake. As a human being, He had the choice to obey YHWH or not. As we see time and time again, He CHOSE to obey. He KNEW who He was....)

Luke 4: 43 "But he (Yeshua/Jesus) said, "I must preach the good news of the Kingdom of God to the other towns also, because that is why I was sent."

Luke 8: 1. And it happened after these things that Y'shua was going around in the cities and in the villages and was preaching and declaring the Kingdom of Elohim.

Note He was NOT preaching about Himself; He was preaching the Kingdom of Elohim! And so did His Apostles:

Acts 28: 23 "From morning till evening the Apostle Paul explained and declared the Kingdom of God and tried to convince people about Yeshua from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets."

Acts 24: 14. But this indeed I (Paul) acknowledge, that in that same doctrine of which they speak, I do serve the Elohim of my fathers, believing all the things written in Torah and in the prophets.

Something to think about: While His death, burial, and resurrection are an important part of the Good News, it's not the whole story! God isn't just in the business of "saving" people; as Creator and law giver, He is in the business of teaching us how to be good subjects in His Kingdom to come! If "Jesus abolished Torah at the cross" then why was EVERY believer completely Torah observant for one hundred years after Yeshua's death, including the Apostle Paul who was "caught" being Torah observant 29 years after Yeshua's death (Acts 21:23-24)! Was Paul a hypocrite, saying one thing and doing another; or were his teachings, perhaps, misunderstood?

Now, please check out the following which tells us how we can "know" the Father:

1 John 2: 3. And by this we will be sensible that we know him, if we keep his Commandments. 4. For he that says I know him, and does not keep his Commandments, is a liar and the truth is not in him. 5. But he that keeps his Word, in him is the Love of Elohim truly completed: for by this we know that we are in him. 6. He that says I am in him, is bound to walk according to his halacha.

Matthew 8: 19. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut and thrown in the fire. 20. Therefore, by their fruits you will know them. 21. It will not be that just anyone who says to me "My master, my master" will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

Matthew 10: 32. Whoever, therefore, that confesses me before the sons of men, he also I (will confess) before my Father who is in heaven. 33. But whoever denies me before the sons of men, he will I also deny before my Father who is in heaven. 34. Do not think that I have come to bring calm on earth. I have not come to bring calm, rather a sword. 35. For I have come to divide a man from his father, and a girl from her mother. And a daughter-in-law from her mother-in-law. 36. And the adversaries of a man will be his household.[1] 37. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me. And whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38. And anyone that does not take up his staff[2] and come and follow me is not worthy of me. 39. Whoever finds his soul will lose it, and whoever loses his soul for my sake will find it. 40. Whoever accepts you, accepts me, and whoever that accepts me, whom I send accepts him.

Matthew 11: 25. At that moment, Y'shua answered and said, I give thanks to You my Father, Master of heaven and of earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and the intelligent, and You have revealed them to the children. 26. Yes my Father for such was the desire in front of You. 27. Every thing has been delivered to me from my Father, and no man knows the son except the Father. Also, no man knows the Father except the son and to whom the son desires to reveal him.

28. Come to me all who labor and bear burdens, and I will give you rest. 29. Bear my yoke[3] upon you and learn from me. That I am tranquil and I am meek, and in my heart you will find tranquility in your souls.[4] 30. For my yoke is pleasant and my burden[5] is light.

Matthew 12: 50. For anyone who does the will of my Father[6] who is in heaven, is my brother, and my sister, and my mother.

Mark 14: 36. And he said, Father! My Father! Anything is possible for You. Make pass from me this cup - yet, not my will but Yours.

John 6: 35. Y'shua said to them, I am the Bread of Life. Whoever comes to me will not hunger. And whoever believes in me will not ever thirst. 36. But I have said to you that you have seen me, and you do not believe. 37. All who my Father has given to me will come, and whoever comes not to me I will cast outside!

38. For I came down from heaven,[7] not to do my will, but to do the will of Him who sent me. 39. And this is His will, that of Him who sent me, that all that He has given to me I do not lose even one. 40. For this is the will of my Father, that all who see the Son and believe in Him, will have life that is eternal. And I will raise him up on the last day.

FOOTNOTES from the AENT:

[1] Micah 7:6

[2] Take up your staff and follow means to exercise your personal authority. A staff is a symbol of authority that is used for mobility and protection (see B'midbar/Numbers 17:16-25; 8-13 in some versions). Christian versions insert "cross" here which does not appear in either Aramaic or Greek texts.

[3] A "yoke" that also brings "suffering" for righteousness sake. Mashiyach did not come as a "sugar daddy" to heap all manner of materialism upon his followers. This "yoke" of Mashiyach pertains to righteous judgment, mercy and faith in YHWH, that nurtures peace on earth and good will.

[4] Jeremiah 6:16

[5] Psalm 55:22

[6] Fifty one (51) times Y'shua speaks of His "Father" YHWH, leaving no doubt as to Who is in charge, and that What is required is Torah (instructions in Righteousness) of YHWH to be upheld and observed by all who follow him.

[7] As in the context of Miltha (the Word) or the "Manifestation" or the "Will of" YHWH coming down from heaven to do the Will of YHWH upon earth; his Spirit is of YHWH but his nephesh (soul) and body are human and temporal.

So there you have it! It is not easy to explain our Elohim or His Son who came in the flesh. We do know, they are echad (One) - John 10:30, John 14:6) because Y'shua was placed in Miriam's womb by YHWH to become a human being, sent to teach YHWH's people about YHWH and His Torah...and then to ultimately martyr Himself as our Final SIN Sacrifice....